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Recent Episodes
How to build a disruptive brand and win over the CFO - Vineet Mehra, Chime
Sep 16, 2026Vineet Mehra, CMO of Chime, discusses how the challenger bank disrupted traditional banking by combining low-cost operations, strong product-market fit, and disciplined capital allocation. He shares lessons from his career spanning P&G, private equity, and fintech, and explains how modern CMOs must speak the language of the CFO by understanding unit economics, LTV:CAC ratios, and long-term business value creation rather than treating marketing as purely creative.
What every Marketer needs to know about the future of search - Google’s Sophie Neary
Sep 9, 2026Sophie Neary, a senior leader at Google who previously ran Boots.com, discusses how AI is transforming search, shopping, and consumer discovery. The conversation covers practical strategies for marketers to show up in AI-powered search results, the importance of data strength and product feed health, and how YouTube is becoming a shoppable platform for creators and brands. Neary also explores the human skills that will remain valuable as AI automates more marketing tasks.
Why uncertainty creates better marketing & what AI will never replace - Dr Margaret Heffernan
Sep 2, 2026Dr Margaret Heffernan, a bestselling author and former CEO, discusses her latest book Embracing Uncertainty and challenges the business assumption that the future can be predicted. The conversation explores why forecasting often fails, where creative ideas originate, the dangers of over-reliance on data, and the human skills needed to thrive in an age of uncertainty, including curiosity, courage, and adaptability.
How Heineken became creative brand of the year - Ali Payne
Aug 26, 2026Ali Payne, CMO of Heineken in the US, discusses how Heineken won Creative Brand of the Year at Cannes Lions and maintains relevance for a 150-year-old brand. The episode covers Heineken's innovative World Cup strategy as the unofficial 'Official Beer of Soccer,' the successful revival of the Dos Equis 'Most Interesting Man in the World' campaign, and creative collaborations like the Heineken x Heinz partnership. Payne shares insights on balancing brand heritage with cultural relevance, the role of sponsorship activation, and what it takes to embed creativity throughout an organization.
Why AI should drive growth, not just efficiency – Najoh Tita-Reid
Aug 19, 2026Najoh Tita-Reid, former Chief Growth Officer at Mars Petcare, discusses her decision to step away from corporate leadership to embark on a "learning safari" focused on AI and its implications for marketing and growth. She argues that organizations are over-indexing on AI for efficiency and cost-reduction when its greatest opportunity lies in unlocking growth, and explores how AI is reshaping creativity, leadership, and the CMO role through the lens of historical colonization patterns.
How creativity transformed Australia’s No.1 Telecom’s brand - Brent Smart
Aug 12, 2026Brent Smart, a seasoned marketer with 20+ years in advertising, discusses his transition from agency leadership to CMO roles at NRMA Insurance and Telstra, Australia's largest telecommunications company. He shares how he transformed Telstra's brand perception from "boring, a bully, and greedy" into a creative powerhouse through bold, surprising creative work—including the viral "Better on a Better Network" campaign. Smart explores the frameworks and principles behind selling creative ideas in large organizations, building creative cultures, and using academic marketing models like the long and short to drive both brand building and business results.
Why this brand can't afford to be boring - Rebecca Darley, Vodafone Australia
Aug 5, 2026Bec Darley, CMO of Vodafone Australia, discusses how the brand competes as a challenger number three player against entrenched market leaders Telstra and Optus. She explains Vodafone's strategy of embracing its disadvantages, partnering with comedian Ali Wong for bold creative campaigns, and building internal organizational strength before aggressive market expansion. Darley emphasizes the importance of marketing leaders understanding finance, legal, unit economics, and organizational change to drive business impact beyond traditional marketing functions.
20 years of challenger brand lessons with Auto & General CMO, Jonathan Kerr
Jul 29, 2026Jonathan Kerr, Chief Growth Officer at Auto & General/Budget Direct, discusses his 20-year journey building a challenger brand in Australia's insurance duopoly. Starting from a small direct mail business, he grew Budget Direct to 14% market share by focusing on operational excellence, precision pricing, and long-term brand building through consistent creative campaigns like Captain Risky and Sarge. The episode explores how challenger brands break through duopolies with limited budgets through strategic marketing fundamentals, mental availability, and unwavering commitment to core principles.
How YouTube built the creator economy and how brands are still missing out - Pedro Pina, YouTube
Jul 22, 2026Pedro Pina, Head of YouTube for Europe, discusses how YouTube built the creator economy and the disconnect between CMO strategy and actual consumer behavior. The episode covers the evolution of Cannes Lions from celebrating creative agencies to recognizing creators as the new power players, YouTube's $100B creator payouts, and why 82% of senior marketers prioritize YouTube yet only 4% feel confident in their strategy. Pina emphasizes authenticity, audience understanding, and the critical mistakes brands make when over-controlling creator content.
The creative revolution inside the worlds most dull category - Novartis CMO
Jul 20, 2026Gail Semaan, CMO of Novartis, discusses the pharmaceutical company's creative transformation that resulted in two Grand Prix awards at Cannes Lions for integrated campaigns. The episode explores how Novartis broke through the "dullest category" in advertising through surprise-driven campaigns—including two Super Bowl spots on prostate and breast cancer screening—while maintaining regulatory compliance and authentic partnerships with advocacy groups. The conversation covers creative effectiveness, organizational change, AI's role in marketing systems, and leadership principles.
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